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World Tafl Federation Hnefatafl Championship tournament 2018
Round 2 starting Oct. 11th at 18 o'clock Danish time!

Tafl against humans.

Тавлеи против людей.
(Button in top panel.)
Rasmus Holbroe vikings
Artist: Copyright © Rasmus Holbroe (Jan. 2016).
Tafl against the computer.

Search! Who is Nicolas Cartier, who wrote this paper?
LE TABLUT DE LINNAEUS / Nicolas Cartier (November 2011).
Steve Lonsdale ("Xerxes") visited Erik the Red's settlement in Brattahlid, Greenland, last year and writes about it here:
Brattahlid
The January 2018 issue of Tabletop Gaming Magazine has an article on hnefatafal, including input from David Lonsdale ("Animals") and Damian Walker ("Cyningstan"), and mention of this website. The magazine is available in PDF form from here (article starts on page 48):
Tabletop Gaming Magazine
(Xerxes)
Small forum.


  10-18/21:06 Hagbard:  Lead in Himinbjörg: Bogd khan 3 pt.

  10-18/07:04 Hagbard:  Lead in Fólkvangr: OdinHimself 3 pt.

  10-17/22:24 edmond-dantes:  @Adam:thanks for the reply

  10-17/21:39 Hagbard:  First to finish all games: Hagbard 5 pt.

  10-17/19:48 Hagbard:  Looks like Casshern is first to qualify for the Final, 8 pt.

  10-17/19:43 Adam:  @ Edmond-dantes - I would argue that copying from the archives is not a problem, it's no different from learning strategies in a book about chess. In fact, its essential for the games development. Any given live game will soon enough diverge from a copied game. This is why the Umpire's judgement and discretion is essential. As opposed to the board repetition rule which is in much more competent hands with the computer deciding. This one was spotted by Hagbard around move 17, so the copying was clear. An interesting case, yet another challenge for online tournaments.

  10-17/16:36 Hagbard:  http://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2018-10-15-arkaeologer-finder-spor-af-vikingeskib-i-norge

  10-16/10:50 Brench:  Ok did...

  10-16/10:39 Hagbard:  @Brench: please do a move

  10-16/10:31 Brench:  So that explains how I just won against Olle.  Does one not receive points on a timeout win? I didn’t know that.

  10-16/09:44 edmond-dantes:  I'm sorry, I want to ask how exactly the presence of mirror games is found. My question is purely practical how did it happen, who signaled? Who saw the games before they were graduated? How was the violation noticed?

  10-16/09:32 edmond-dantes:  Correct. If the archive continues to be available in the future, we will increasingly see similar things copied to the strong players. I want to explain this for a long time. In this case, the games are played at the same time, and this is a violation, but if they are copied from the archive, it will remain unnoticed. Many greetings

  10-16/08:08 Adam:  Previous message was speaking as umpire as is this. As Olle has deregistered the games will simply count as losses for Olle as in a timeout. The new rule about parallel move copying still stands of course.

  10-16/08:04 Adam:  The following games

Hagbard / Olle
Olle / Casshern

Olle / Hagbard
Casshern / Olle

Are to be removed and restarted. Foul play is suspected by Olle, with moves being copied across games such that Hagbard and Casshern are effectively playing each other.

Such copying of moves in parallel games is henceforth illegal and will result in immediate disqualification. It will be at the umpires discretion to decide wether it is move copying or coincidence. Umpires decision will be final.

  10-16/06:37 olle:  Deregisters from the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  10-15/10:13 Hagbard:  Lead in Bilskirnir: Casshern 3 pt.

  10-12/20:15 Hagbard:  Most active player: Jrton80 (most moves)

  10-12/16:31 Hagbard:  First finished game: Hagbard / Arevidar

  10-11/17:50 Hagbard:  First move: jrton80

  10-11/17:49 Hagbard:  May Thor grant you strength and courage on your way.

@jrton80: The English sleep an hour longer, but we like to get up early!

  10-11/15:40 jrton80:  For the rest of the Vineland group, just in case you do not know: 18:00 Danish time works out to be Noon EST which make no sense but there it is. Time Zones: As a general rule, are 15 degrees of longitude adjusted for population centers, governmental broader or regional differences but for some reason I have never read about most of Continental Europe is GTM +1 when looking at a map it appears it should be GTM +0 - So tell me guys - Do you really hate the Brits that much that you cannot even share a timezone? (Sorry Hagbard - I know you have heard that joke before)

  10-11/15:25 jrton80:  @mccluskeyp - I do not remember ever saying that in my life.

  10-09/03:48 mccluskeyp:  As we say in the USA it’s on like Donkey Kong

  10-08/19:31 Adam:  Speaking as umpire: Jrton80, Marcin, mccluskeyp, Olle, Arevidar and Brench have qualified for Round 2. Round 2 will start Oct. 11th at 18 o'clock Danish time. Set an alarm!

  10-08/13:28 Hagbard:  One game is left of Round 1: Olle / Brench
If Brench wins or if the game is a draw, Brench would qualify for Round 2.

If Brench loses this game, then Brench and Kratzer both have 4 points.
It then will be necessary to find the Sonneborn-Berger scores which will be:
Brench 16 points
Kratzer 11 points

So no matter how the last game ends, it looks like Brench will qualify for Round 2.
Therefore

To umpire Adam:
Requested that Jrton80, Marcin, mccluskeyp, Olle, Arevidar and Brench qualified for Round 2,
and that Round 2 can start Oct. 11th at 18 o'clock Danish time.

  10-08/12:33 Hagbard:  Looks like Arevidar qualified for Round 2, 8 pt.

  10-07/18:39 Hagbard:  Second lead in Heiðabýr: Brench and Kratzer, both 4 pt.

  10-04/23:24 Hagbard:  Second lead in Vinland: Arevidar 7 pt.

  10-04/08:32 Hagbard:  Second lead in Vinland: Arevidar and Maximus, both 6 pt.

  10-04/07:25 Hagbard:  Attention: When the last two Round 2 players are found, Round 2 can start with three days notice.

  10-03/15:55 Hagbard:  Looks like Olle qualified for Round 2, 6 pt.
Second lead in Heiðabýr: Brench 4 pt.

  10-02/23:07 Hagbard:  Looks like mccluskeyp qualified for Round 2, 4 pt.
First group to finish all games: Gàrðaríki

  10-02/19:45 Hagbard:  Harry sent this link:
https://www.hakaimagazine.com/news/viking-chess-with-whale-bones/

  10-02/07:43 Hagbard:  Second lead in Gàrðaríki: Mccluskeyp 3 pt.

  10-01/14:48 Hagbard:  Jrton80 finished all games with full house: 10 pt.

  10-01/13:29 Hagbard:  Lead in Heiðabýr: Olle 5 pt.

  10-01/06:01 Hagbard:  Second lead in Gàrðaríki: La-cucaracha and Mccluskeyp, both 2 pt.

  09-30/10:35 fireflo:  @jrton80 Well, I'll never know. LOL.

  09-30/07:20 Hagbard:  @jrton80: Fine cats!

  09-30/02:31 jrton80:  @fireflo O' yeah, as a reference: https://www.amazon.com/Greater-Journey-Americans-Paris/dp/1416571779 most people would agree about eating dog, but cat, on the other hand, is supposed to be quite good. Not that I could imagine it, but history does provide presidents.

  09-30/02:24 jrton80:  @Hagbard, my name is Delray Curtis - I am really easy to find on FB and the baby kittens pics are public. @fireflo great, we have established a baseline, I know what to expect now

  09-29/22:42 fireflo:  @jrton80 Yeah, it's all in jest. Accept the eating dogs bit, I'm very serious about not eating dogs.  

@ Hagbard Good question. What's the internet for if not cat pics?

  09-29/21:32 Hagbard:  @jrton80: do you by any chance have a photo of the kitten?

  09-29/20:36 jrton80:  @fireflo you do realize I was just trying to make a dick joke at a very oblique, to the point of being obtuse, angle, right? I am aware of the life cycle which can seem sad but it is a successful evolutionary process, I was hoping you were too. I was just trying to be funny. If you were too, good job, I did chuckle, it just seems you may have taken me seriously which I rarely am, if I can help it. (as I type this one handed since I am a kitten pillow at the moment - annoying, but they are just so damn cute!)

  09-29/15:20 Hagbard:  Lead in Heiðabýr: Olle and Brench, both 4 pt.

  09-29/10:15 fireflo:  @jrton80 I don't eat octopus for the same reasons I don't eat dogs, too clever, I have a lot of respect for intellegence, regardless of the form it comes in. 

Actually, reproducing is pretty final for both males and females. https://www.sciencealert.com/mother-octopus-senescence-death-after-mating-eggs-reproduction-rna-sequence-optic-gland

  09-29/01:13 jrton80:  @fireflo hehehe, I really need to visit here more often, allow me to rephrase: Never trust an invertebrate a predator with all those creepy legs - it is just unnatural. Although, properly prepare, not over cooked and turned into rubber better for tires than eating, they are very tasty. Two or four leg predators, I can understand, the fight is something with known parameters. It is just those four extra legs, not to mention the guy losing one in the mating process (always a sensitive subject) is just wrong!

  09-28/16:33 Hagbard:  First to finish all games: Marcin 5 pt.

  09-27/06:48 Hagbard:  Looks like Marcin qualified for Round 2, 5 pt.
Second lead in Gàrðaríki: La-cucaracha 2 pt.

  09-24/23:24 Hagbard:  Second lead in Vinland: Arevidar and Maximus, both 4 pt.
Lead in Gàrðaríki: Marcin 3 pt.

  09-24/07:01 Hagbard:  Second lead in Vinland: Arevidar 4 pt.

  09-23/20:27 Hagbard:  Second lead in Vinland: Arevidar and Maximus, both 3 pt.

  09-23/10:00 fireflo:  Actually, the animal I most identify with is the fox; graceful, playful, and dangerous to chickens. Are Vikings not predetory also, in battle and the hunt? Indeed, Predetors must trust other predetors to survive, like a wolf in a pack. Those who can't trust the fox, or wolf, or Viking must be prey, do you not think?

  09-23/04:50 jrton80:  @fireflo a predator is still a predator, if not always hungry. That is why the lamb can laid with a lion from time to time. That does tend to be a short lived relationship.

  09-22/20:02 fireflo:  @jrton80 But cephalopods are so friendly. :)

  09-22/17:01 jrton80:  @fireflo duh, invertebrate - that's what I get for typing without glaases

  09-22/12:50 fireflo:  @jorton80 Sorry, what?

  09-22/09:08 Hagbard:  Round 1 is halfway finished.

  09-22/08:40 OdinHimself:  @edmond-dantes: OK, whatever. I'm not impressed. But I feel obliged to clarify my words - last year Steiger made a very beautiful tafl set and gave it for free as a prize for the champion. Plantagenet won the set. Steiger deserves respect. This year the Russians provided even more prizes, free again. Free means they don't get money for them. They do it as a charity. I never thought you will turn against me, just the other day I spoke about both of us playing as a team on the championship in my latest radio interview. Thank you for your gratefulness.
Please everyone excuse me I replied, this will be my last post on this topic too.

  09-22/05:24 jrton80:  FYI, casshern has heard all that before

  09-22/05:23 jrton80:  just a couple of things, @casshern I do look forward to winning a game against you,not happened yet, but SOME DAY IT WILL(insert appropriate curses)
. @Adam, dude, way too nice, @fireflo I will never trust an inveterate - all those creepy legs and all.

  09-21/21:06 casshern:  Congrats Jrton80! I am glad to have another counrtyman to fight alongside in the next round. You have made great strides over the last year. Good luck in round 2!

  09-21/18:07 edmond-dantes:  @OdinHimself:This will be my last post so as not to bother people here. Yes, if you claim that people here are a community, everyone should make the decisions, including you. The problem is that people for this job are missing. I do not remember anybody getting a board for free? I did a short time here to win against world champions that you can not even do. You like the rules and the structure but they are sloppy. This community is not developing because a federation does not exist. The ideas are neither clean nor original. I know you do not think right, I've appreciated your value for a long time, in my dialogue with a goldfish from the low one in one of our games. I'm not trying to change the rules for me and for all of them, I do not care if I win or not, I do not care if I play the game again I have another prioritization. You do not have to spit hate but you must not be blind, silent, stupid, polite, politically affectionate and attached to the sect with strange thoughts. Yes, you introduced me here but I stand apart from you, and I think it became clear to I feel respect for you, but with this post for me you have become a small goldfish despite the title of international master won in small competition. Small fish is not really offensive, they are so attractive, colorful and beautiful ...

  09-21/15:59 Hagbard:  Looks like the first to qualify for Round 2 is: Jrton80 9pt.
Second lead in Vinland: Arevidar 3 pt.

  09-21/14:56 Hagbard:  First group to finish half the games: Vinland

  09-21/09:01 Adam:  Speaking as Adam. Heated debate about esoteric topics is a good thing, but is this chat window the right place? We have a structured forum where such arguments can (and do) rage for years without alarming or boring newcomers who are just curious to know what a hnefatafl is. So, how about a bit of Scandinavian democracy: Who thinks the chat room should be a place for chatting and raising issues, and the Forum a place for discussing and exploring in depth and hammering out those issues? If nobody looks in or comments, it's probably because nobody else is interested in that issue. If people are, the debate will take off without inconveniencing those who aren't, and without being muddied by other issues.

  09-21/08:46 Adam:  Speaking as Umpire: I confirm that Sybil, Rew, Juman, Harry64, Mjølner and Melody.pond be removed from the championship tournament for not showing up 5.5 days into the games.

  09-20/14:43 Hagbard:  To umpire Adam:
requested that Sybil, Rew, Juman, Harry64, Mjølner and Melody.pond can be removed from the champ. tourn. for not showing up.
5.5 days into the tourn. no move has been made and the games are timing out.

  09-20/09:14 Steiger:  @Kratzer, bro!\m/.

  09-20/09:13 Steiger:  @OdinHimself: Wise words of a wise man!

  09-20/08:18 OdinHimself:  do we have any terminally ill problems in the federation?). Anyway, we're at the beginning of the battle of the year, the world championship, and I think it's a high time to STOP poisoning the small forum with Platonic fights, let's enjoy the tournament and discuss the problems later, as Kratzer suggested in the Large forum when the time comes. Do we all have an agreement on this matter?

  09-20/08:16 OdinHimself:  @edmond-dantes: Answering your question "have you ever been involved in making decisions about structure, form, rules and others" - no. Should I? Should we all do it? There are people for every job. Some of us make the rules and the structure, others play and have fun and try to popularize the game. Some of us make beautiful boards and tafl sets and give them for free as a prize in the tournament. Have you ever done this? No? And nobody is atacking you you never did that. I like the rules how they are, I like the structure, the form etc., I like the community, I like the passion. I love to see how our small federation is growing and how we start something pure and original, we (the members) create our own prizes and fight for them. I never said you're not right, I just asked you to be more polite and tolerant. Stop insulting people with the "small fish" thing. Don't disrespect them, it's all I ask. Is it too much? I represented you to this site and I feel embarrassed when you turn people against your arguments by insulting them and act haughty. There always will be someone better than you, than me, than him. We can't all be champions and winners. We must not try to change the rules with the only idea to have a better chance to win. I know where I'm standing and I know my abillities, I know there are several better players than me, but this cannot keep me away from the competition, I won't lie down in my bed spitting hatred against the ones I cannot overpower, just the contrary, I will stand up against them and fight them over and over again. Lubo, one more time I'm asking you only to be more respectful and patient in you discussions, I don't ask you to stop discussing or giving ideas or doing whatever you think it's best for our community. Just show respect to others and I'm sure you (we) will find the right way to solve the problems (which I don't know how deep they are, honestly, do we have any terminally

  09-20/07:27 Hagbard:  http://nyheder.tv2.dk/lokalt/2018-09-19-danmarks-aeldste-strengeinstrument-fundet-i-ribe

  09-19/23:08 Hagbard:  Lead in Heiðabýr: Olle 4 pt.
Lead in Vinland: Jrton80 5 pt.

  09-19/19:12 edmond-dantes:  The golden little fish from the low can not be called Viking, as it never crossed the melted ice of the north

  09-19/19:07 edmond-dantes:  the choice of jrles, respectively kings.

  09-19/19:04 edmond-dantes:  Initially these strata of the population are linked through the old tribal system of government and legislation. Everyone who has even a minimal amount of land has the right to attend public meetings known as the Ting. The Ting is an elementary form of parliament in whose collections laws are being drafted or their offenders are tried. Every local community or area has its own ting. The community is usually part of a larger unit and, accordingly, the tying of the larger area compiles its meetings with representatives of local tinges.

The Ting elaborates the norms governing both the political and the daily life. Norms are remembered and transmitted verbally - there is no written right in Scandinavia until 12 century. The laws affect all aspects of the individual's life - from settling the boundaries of land ownership to resolving blood feuds. Individuals arguing with each other may refer their dispute to the solution as the complainants face all members of the meeting (or a selected part of them). The accused has the right to summon witnesses, and may even invoke the right of God's judgment. This is an opportunity to reach a decision whereby the accused can, for example, catch hot-red iron and hold it for a few seconds. The hand binds and after four days it is examined by the tinga. If the participants in the meeting decide that the wound is clean, they declare the accused to be innocent. If, however, it is not, the Ting defines a penalty which, depending on the crime, varies from a fine to a beheading.

There is another distinctive punishment in the Tingan law, which, by its weight, only yields to death. This is putting an individual forever out of the law, and turning it into a living dead man. The individual is deprived of all his property and all his rights. Everyone else has the right to kill him without risk of punishment.

Meetings also address issues related to the law and general security of society, and have the right to approve the choice of

  09-19/19:03 edmond-dantes:  The analysis showed that the inhabitants of modern Western Norway are much closer to the ancient inhabitants of Northern Russia and the Baltic than to their neighbors in southern Scandinavia. Their genome is similar to that of the hunters who lived at that time in Germany and elsewhere in Central Europe.
In Scandinavia at that time, there were two distinct groups of ancient Vikings: one came through Denmark from the South, and the other from East through the Norwegian coast.
The southern Vikings had a "European" appearance - with blue eyes and dark skin, and the northern ones - with light skin and a variety of eye and hair colors.

  09-19/18:58 edmond-dantes:  The DNA of the ancient Vikings was decoded and the scientists clarified that they were the descendants of two groups of people - native of Central Europe and today's northern Russia and the Baltic.
The Vikings migrated to Scandinavia 10,000 years ago, an article in the journal PLoS Biology wrote.
"We found that 10,000 years ago, when Scandinavia just got rid of the ice, two groups of migrants were infiltrated into its territory. This was repeated many times in later periods - at the end of the Stone Age, at the beginning of the Bronze Age and after the emergence of civilization.
Modern Scandinavians have little to do with the first inhabitants of the peninsula, said Matthias Jakobson of Sweden's Uppsala University.
Today, scientists believe that the first modern humans entered Europe around 40,000 to 45,000 years in a few ways - through the Balkans, the islands of the Mediterranean and the coasts of Africa to Spain.
Traces of these first people as artifacts are stored in the caves of southern France and northern Italy. They gave an opportunity to understand how these people looked and how they defeated the Neanderthals.
The first inhabitants of Europe, whose traces have almost disappeared in the DNA of modern Europeans, have settled only in part of the continent, as the northern regions of Britain, Northern Russia and Scandinavia have been covered with ice and unfit for life.
Only 17,000 to 15,000 years ago the north became accessible for living.
Genetics have deciphered the DNA of Scandinavia's first inhabitants, whose remains have been buried 6,000-9,000 years ago on the west coast of Norway, on the Baltic Sea island of Gotland and on the Satura-Karlswig Reserve.
Due to the low temperatures and eternal frost, fragments of DNA have been stored in their bones, whereby the genome of the deceased was restored with extremely high accuracy.
Paleologists have discovered about 10,000 minor mutations in the genome.
The analysis showed that the in

  09-19/18:28 edmond-dantes:  @Plantagenet:yes, I understood you wonderful, and I think like that. but do not be stupid if I have to be honest they lose more than not see  Plantagenet and edmond-dantes in the tournament.there will be no one to take their souls to the valhalle because in the tournament there are many small fish that make small modest waves. The only one who will rub his hands is the one who is called Quadrathlon master.their loss will be much worse, than any other look in the perspective believe me ...

  09-19/18:13 edmond-dantes:  @OdinHimself;I want to ask you - have you ever been involved in making decisions about structure, form, rules and others? Are you looking for an opinion on the decisions made? Did you have a discussion with someone or not?

  09-19/18:06 edmond-dantes:  @jrton80:oh you are far from the truth, you have absolutely no idea, it is the fiery Irish water that speaks to you, but it remains at your expense. you never tried to understand and understand my words but you have a hurry to comment on what the theft you are talking about what a grab? I do not blame the administrator's work, but that makes the wrong decisions alone to please somebody. Because there is no corrective or organization to channel things. My idea was to have a prize pool formed by sponsors or small fee dancers. the amount collected is a hundred percent given as prizes. what the theft? again, but obviously people do not want to understand the shape of the structure and the performance of the tournament are not nice.

  09-19/17:08 OdinHimself:  @Kratzer: Skal brother! May Tyr steers your javelin right into the hearts of your enemies and grants you great victories! Fight bravely and your time will be remembered, your time it will be known, by your sons, by your tribe and by the sun, the sea and moon. For he who battle for his land, his pride and for his men, shall be remembered and stand eternally named in the legends of your land. Lets pen the saga together! :)

  09-19/13:56 Kratzer:  @Steiger, OdinHimself: You guys are just the best! Thanks for your encouragement and uplifting words. Der Ton macht die Musik! I'm almost sorry I reignited this controversy in the first place. So let's maybe put this discussion aside and focus on the fun instead. Perhaps, after the tournament, we could try to filter out useful feedback and discuss it in the large forum where it belongs?

  09-19/07:24 Hagbard:  Lead in score: Jrton80 4 pt.

  09-19/01:03 jrton80:  @fireflo: Yes, and my typos are another reason I hate typing

  09-18/21:59 OdinHimself:  The competition is now turning into a real battle! The skies are grey, darkness covers the fields, icy winds blow on Vigridr plain... the shadow of death crawls from the frozen ground and summons the newborn spirits of the just now killed warriors... and the living become its mortal weapons used only for spreading the law, the law of the killing, dying, smashing skulls, annihilatiion, more blood and more dead... but there they are: the most powerfull and fearless slayers of them all, the slaughter machines of the Viking age, the sons of Thor - the Berserkers!!! Goooooing berseeeeeerk - as I rush into battle, going berserk - as I feel the smell of blood, going berserk - as I crush your skull, going berserk - I am high on death!!!

  09-18/21:15 Hagbard:  Lead in score: Olle and Jrton80, both 3 pt.

  09-18/20:04 Hagbard:  Lead in score: Olle 3 pt.

  09-18/18:30 Plantagenet:  @edmond-dantes Because I'm fed up with the site administrator who refuses to add games on the list with some improvements for the game balance and he refuses to change the format of the tournament in spite of the fact I've got some experience, my word still represents few things.

  09-18/18:07 fireflo:  @jrton80 Sorry to be pedantic but you mean perspective rather than prospective. I think the general thrust of your argument is correct. The classic example of such negation being "I'm not racist but..."

  09-18/15:52 jrton80:  @sqAree Did you miss the part where I said the Irish Whiskey is talking? ;) and the Keyboard has never been my friend - I truly hate typing for any length of time. Allow sober me at work to give an example: "09-17/18:34 edmond-dantes:  I want to understand, I appreciate the work of the site administrator, but" (As a general rule, everything before a 'but' is invalidated by that 'but' so that what is really being said here is that he does not want to understand nor does he appreciate the work of the administrators. Also by that same rule what is after the but is what he really thinking) "here are many wrong decisions about the rules of the game..." I am just going to pick on the use of "wrong decisions" here. What exactly is a wrong decision? Not what wrong decisions have been made or how to you think they are wrong. What, exactly, is a wrong decision? Instead of a long explanation of the logic which led me to ASK that question in the first place (and that does go back to my "learn to doubt" comment from before) I'll just come to the point: There is Truth and there is Prospective - All any single person every can see is their own Prospective. Truth is not a universal or real thing. There is only the truth of your own Prospective which just maybe not count in the eyes of others. 

Personally, I like to ensure I have all the facts before making comments. This whole discussion revolves around one rude little shit who, if I were to guess, wants to hijack this site and make money from it, but I am a cynical Asshole and really just wish he'd shut up. (and yes the use of 'but' there was intentional since it is perfectly fine to invalidate you own speculation and opinion - it is the invalidation of what appear to be positive statements which really grinds my gears.)

  09-17/22:15 Hagbard:  First game finished: Olle / Madphill

  09-17/21:58 Hagbard:  Sybil, Rew, Juman, Harry64, Mjølner, Melody.pond, please check your games.

  09-17/21:05 OdinHimself:  @Plantagenet: Exactly! We're more than politically correct. We are politically devoted. We're all members of the Viking party. True clansmen. :) Pagans. And I must say edmond-dantes may sometimes speak harsh, but I doubt he puts intentionally any bad feelings in his words. He's just a more warm-blooded viking, but I'm absolutely positive he loves the game and venerates it. I'm sure he speaks only in attempt to make the championships better. My only request to him is to be more respectful to all members, we're all brothers here. Disrespecting the community makes the wise words empty, they stay unheard, because of the anger that comes in first place when one hears someone elses insults. So, edmond (Lubo), you speak well brother, just lower your voice so that all can hear you. ;)

  09-17/19:01 edmond-dantes:  @Plantagenet:  I would ask why this year you are not playing in the championship?

  09-17/19:00 edmond-dantes:  there is no double application of the rules, or it is forbidden or allowed, not for anyone but for someone else. Last year I noticed, and just before the tournament, accounts were started with little games played for the sole purpose of helping to make groups so as to please somebody and avoid inconvenient rivals and then not even play a tournament. It is not acceptable, once there is a set deadline for registration, people are asked to ask before exactly for that purpose for preliminary accounts. But this one who p ravi account prize remained dry.that happened last year. I have tremendous insights into the meaning and shape of the first round in this championship ...

  09-17/18:34 edmond-dantes:  I want to understand, I appreciate the work of the site administrator, but here are many wrong decisions about the rules of the game, the structure, the form and the time control, the way of formation and execution of the tournaments. It is difficult for him to please everyone (especially small fish), so it is right that the decisions are taken by the so-called federation or after a public discussion. But it is right for every change in the rules to know who has made this decision publicly. Regarding small fish I would advise them do not pay attention to this the forum will focus more on the game and so they climb into the hierarchy their voice can be better heard. If the federation is missing will be chosen a new working one as with priority are the true northern people as evidenced by their rating and status It is clear that this community, if it does not combine the result, will be the one with only a few active players and many doubles, very sleepy small fish. The idea is for the site to be fashionable, attractive to new players and sponsors. I realized I was the first one here to post avi the issue of double accounts and I was very much against it as well as I was hiding the playing games. I am against making the engine and the storage of a database because it will kill the game, and she really liked me believe me. I call for respect for the strong players   Plantagenet, herjan,OdinHimself, Adam, nath of them we can expect good decisions

  09-17/11:51 Steiger:  @fireflo: спасибо! Ты тоже ничего ;-)

  09-17/10:08 fireflo:  @Steiger You! I like you. You keep that positive vibe up, mate. :)

  09-17/09:41 Steiger:  @Plantagenet: comment est le père borgne de la discorde?

  09-17/08:40 Steiger:  But growth and development are impossible without overcoming the trials! Stay humans!

  09-17/08:24 Steiger:  Valuable prizes added fire to the championship and community!!! ]:>

  09-17/00:32 sqAree:  @Plantagenet: Calling ya out on contributing exactly nothing to the discussion, congratulations! What can I say, I'm not a great fan of politeness IRL. It's not the words of edmond that offend us ultimately, rather the meaning he wants to convey (or so I think, but as I'm not sure I asked him a few messages earlier here in the chat).

  09-17/00:31 mccluskeyp:  @edmond-dantes, no, I don't have any posts in the federation or in the tournament.  I'm expressing my opinion of your character.

  09-17/00:24 sqAree:  @jrton80 I don't even understand your comment completely, maybe you're not that much of a pro at semantics as you think. ^^ I don't like the tone edmond is using either, as you know, but ironically he ends up saying things of more substance than your comment.

  09-17/00:18 sqAree:  I remember that in the past it has never been a problem to have multiple accounts on this site. Obviously that is abusable anyway, regardless of if it's allowed or not. I don't see the problem in having more than one account so (nor the use). No need to mention that you shouldn't enter the championship with more than one account.

  09-17/00:09 sqAree:  @edmond: Maybe you can explain all that "small fish" fuss, cause it gives the impression that you say that unworthy players don't have the right to participate in the discussion / their opinions don't matter (and from other statements of yours it appears that your definition of "worthy" is "involved in the organization of the federation / tournament or being a strong player"). Maybe that's not what you meant, then you have a chance to clarify now. Given that this was my personal main point to be angry at you, it's possible that it's the same for the other people here who were offended by you.

  09-16/23:42 Plantagenet:  @edmond-dantes Drop it, they're too politically correct.

  09-16/19:17 fireflo:  Oh! A full strop, toys-out-the-pram, diva storm out. How exciting!

  09-16/19:14 edmond-dantes:  I think I did not offend anyone here, I just allowed myself to criticize but it is a constructive thought. I see that there are also hard thinking people here and that makes me happy.thank you for the replies Adam,sqaree,Hagbard, xerxes.I am extremely disappointed with the other small fish that try to make big waves but do not see far from their nose

  09-16/19:07 edmond-dantes:  thanks xerxes

  09-16/19:00 edmond-dantes:  Deregisters from the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-16/18:53 edmond-dantes:  @mccluskeyp did not you answer my question do you have any posts in the federation or in the tournament

  09-16/17:59 xerxes:  @mccluskeyp:  That is a big call - we should be as inclusive as possible on this site, and welcome all players whatever their ability, origin, and views.  However, in this instance I totally agree with you.  In my view the language used by @edmond-dantes has been unacceptable.  He has ignored requests to tone it down, and users and administrators on this site should not be subject to abuse and intemperate language.  A lot of time and effort is put in to administer this site (at no cost to the rest of us), and ALL users should respect that.

  09-16/16:28 mccluskeyp:  @edmond-dantes, it is bad sportsmanship to have multiple user accounts.  Even if you never abuse that system, it gives the appearance of bad sportsmanship.  I've noticed that most of your posts are caustic and rude.  I do think you should be banned from this site.

  09-16/08:13 OdinHimself:  @jrton80: Very good! Skal!

  09-15/23:02 jrton80:  A Viking pray (stolen and lightly edited from Glenn G Thater's Harbinger of Doom series) for the WTF Hnefatafl Championship Tournament 2018

Call: Look unto the north and behold the BiFrost and beyond - ancient Asgard, shining and bright, through and cold as stone. The ice, and the sea
Response: To the north lies Asgard
Call: Now look to the east and behold thy brothers, thy sons, and thy comrades
      Now look to the the west and behold the sisters, thy wives, thy mothers, and thy daughters
Response: Around us are out kinsmen, always.
Call: Now think not again of them until we march on the homeward road
Response: Not until our homeward road.
Call: Now look unto the south and behold thy father, and thy father’s father, and all thy line afore thee, back unto the beginning.
Response: Unto the beginning.
Call: Now look forward and behold thy fate. Before thee lay the paths to victory and glory, and the paths to defeat and disgrace. Intersecting these paths are the road to tomorrow, the road to Valhalla, and the road to darkness
Response: Beware the dark road
Call: Now my brothers, vow thy path
Response: To victory and tomorrow if we can, to victory and Valhalla if we must. This we vow.
Call: This we vow
Response: This we vow
Call: Rise now my brothers and go to thy fate with Odin’s blessing

  09-15/21:56 Hagbard:  Most active player: Jrton80

  09-15/18:42 xerxes:  Hadn't realised I was not going to in be in Round 1.  I've taken two weeks off work, stocked up with beans and bread, and been through a rigorous physical training session to hit my peak this morning.  (Some of that may not be true ...)

  09-15/16:26 Hachit:  Deregisters from the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-15/11:36 Ded Fomich:  Good luck with your games in the championship, brothers and sisters in tafl! Þórr yðr þiggi, Óðinn yðr eigi! Skál!🍻

  09-15/11:10 Hagbard:  http://sciencenordic.com/thousands-objects-discovered-scandinavia%E2%80%99s-first-viking-city

  09-15/10:37 Steiger:  Brothers the battle is raging
Choose your side
Sing with us the BATTLE HYMNS
INTO GLORY RIDE
HAIL TO ENGLAND
THE SIGN OF THE HAMMER is our guide
Forever we're FIGHTING THE WORLD
Side by side
On a crusade

  09-15/10:16 Steiger:  понял!

  09-15/10:15 Hagbard:  @Steiger: players not yet started will start in Round 2.

  09-15/10:11 Steiger:  Hey! Where's me on the championship?

  09-15/10:08 Steiger:  have dignity and be a great man!

  09-15/10:04 fireflo:  @Odinhimself Thank you and Good Luck to All! This Sheildmaiden of Mercia shall fight with ferocity equal to a Viking warrior, so beware!

  09-15/09:40 OdinHimself:  @Steiger: Brothers of true tafl, proud and standing tall! :);) @Hagbard: Good words brother! Live like a viking, fihght like a viking and die like one, this is my life motto! :) Be brave and aggressive, be prepared! Be honest and outspoken and the power will live and burn inside of you. No treachery could harm you if you trust in your own abilities and no foe will survive if you believe in the gods and your heart! Let battle commence, sound the Gjallarhorn and rush into the taflfield! I wish everyone of you who take part in this competition best of luck and many strong fights, brilliant victories, honorable defeats, worthy opponents and medieval viking adventures and nevere forget we're all brothers here, respect each other, have dignity and be a great man! ...The shadowing voices of our gods singing on the calling wind... where the cold waves and the longboats brought us far...

  09-15/03:57 jrton80:  @edmond-dantes Please, PLEASE, I am begging you, quit being a whiny little bitch. Yes, the Irish Whiskey is talking, and I had a whole other approach mapped out in my mind reminding everyone that there is always some small minded little prick (not using those words) in their lives looking to take advantage of "something", imaginary or not, but speaking for myself, you are nothing but a child. Grow up, learn to doubt, and then when you hear children speak, you will understand what I just said.

Choose 1 account, and be an adult about thing. BTW, At work, I am a complete pro at semantics. You really do not stand a chance in this argument. Skimming I spotted 3 logical flaws. Just imagine what I could do if I tried. You are a child and if this seems disrespectful, be without a doubt, it is intended that way since I am really good at returning the favor.

P.S. Just remember, we do have a 70 something child in charge of the US, age is no limit on being a moron. I will only reply when you say something on Substance. seeing how you have yet to say anything of substance, I look forward to never replying.

  09-14/23:43 Hagbard:  First move done by Jrton80

  09-14/23:43 Hagbard:  May Odin give you knowledge on your path,
May Thor grant you strength and courage on your way,
And may Loki give you laughter as you go.

  09-14/23:42 Hagbard:  New photos in the gallery from Steiger.

  09-14/23:25 Steiger:  Every one of us has heard the call

  09-14/23:08 fireflo:  Meaning it's illegal to share them. Just saying.

  09-14/23:07 fireflo:  IP addresses are covered by data protection.

  09-14/20:58 Fairland:  OK, why are you trying to get our addresses in private message if it is for transparency? Transparency is pretty against private messages, wouldn't you agree? If you put two accounts out on your same IP and you got caught, that is on you. If I had put two in on mine, Aage would have stopped it years ago.

  09-14/20:17 edmond-dantes:  @Hagbard to make everything transparent I want to ask you to send me the addresses the players have been doing Casshern,mmagari, fjorlag,siegfried,Bogd Khan, mccluskeyp,Fairland to a personal message so I can check them out

  09-14/20:08 edmond-dantes:  I have great respect for  Adam Bartley.I will agree with his decisions.but I did not understand the possible involvement of Edmond Dantes without affecting Khan Asparukh?

  09-14/19:28 Adam:  Regarding double player id's. Obviously it is illegal to enter the tournament as two players. Policing this, as all else online, is impossible. It will always be possible for people to abuse a system and the trust of those who use it honestly. Hagbard does what he can by monitoring ip address use, but ultimately this and any other online system can be abused. As it's unlikely we'll all be traveling to a conference centre to play under strict chess federation conditions any time soon, let's hope this community is honest enough to play fair, and smart enough to weed out any cheaters. Good luck everyone, let the games begin!

  09-14/18:04 edmond-dantes:  nowhere in the rules I find such a rule. but if the Umpires: Adam Bartley finds such a thing I'm willing to force my friend to abandon the tournament so as not to interfere with my performance. However, this means stopping all double and triple accounts on this site for which I've been fighting for a long time and I want it with all my heart. Believe me, I have such a record.I want the rules to be for all we are brothers ... :)

  09-14/17:51 edmond-dantes:  I think my last post is unclear everyone can read the discussion here http://aagenielsen.dk/hnefataflforum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4&start=60

  09-14/17:48 edmond-dantes:  Can you make moves from the same IP on two different accounts. Does this control? I do not care about me, rather for security reasons I ask

    Yes, but it can be monitored for check. 

This is not good, because I can create somewhere and then play both players in a one tournament at home and I will actually have a spy.
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Re: Hnefatafl Internet Championship

Post by Hagbard » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:49 pm

    edmond_dantes wrote: ↑
    Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:12 pm
    This is not good, because I can create somewhere and then play both players in a one tournament at home and I will actually have a spy.

Sometimes such a loophole comes useful, when man & wife or father & son need two user names for one computer.

Before the tournament all names are evaluated for possible multiple names, it only happened a couple of times.
Last year all players were even from different countries and cities very far from each other.

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Post by edmond_dantes » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:35 pm
Because I'm here soon, I want to ask? Is it allowed to play two accounts from the same IP address?
I noticed that new accounts appeared before the tournament and entered it.
Does the site have a mechanism to monitor this?
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Re: Hnefatafl Internet Championship

Post by Hagbard » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:41 am

    edmond_dantes wrote: ↑
    Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:35 pm
    Is it allowed to play two accounts from the same IP address? ... Does the site have a mechanism to monitor this?

No, only one user name is allowed from the same IP address. Not only for the tournament but also generally.
It's automatically not possible to create a second user name.
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    Hagbard wrote: ↑
    Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:41 am

        edmond_dantes wrote: ↑
        Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:35 pm
        Is it allowed to play two accounts from the same IP address? ... Does the site have a mechanism to monitor this?

    No, only one user name is allowed from the same IP address. Not only for the tournament but also generally.
    It's automatically not possible to create a second user name. 

Does the site have a mechanism to monitor this?
Yes for the creation. Can you make moves from the same IP on two different accounts. Does this control? I do not care about me, rather for security reasons I ask
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Re: Hnefatafl Internet Championship

Post by Hagbard » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:04 am

    edmond_dantes wrote: ↑
    Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:56 am
    Does the site have a mechanism to monitor this?
    Yes for the creation. Can you m

  09-14/17:39 edmond-dantes:  @mccluskeyp in what capacity do you speak of who and for what will be banned? you are no one, I think you have no right to interfere with things that are not yours. let me know if you take a post in the federation or in the tournament my friend....:) :)

  09-14/10:57 fireflo:  5 days. I go tonight and come home Wednesday night. I could take my turns in between sessions and in the evenings.

  09-14/10:48 Hagbard:  @Fireflo: How many days is the conference?

  09-14/09:55 Fireflo:  Hey Everyone, I'm really excited for the tournament! So if round 1 is half a day per move and round 2 0.75  do you forfeit if you can't make your move in that time? I'm going to be at a conference and might not be able to take tafl breaks.

  09-14/07:06 Hagbard:  No, just has to choose which name to use in the tournament

  09-14/01:14 mccluskeyp:  Hello everyone, I hope you had an enjoyable summer.  Am I understanding correctly that edmond dantes registered to play in the world championship under two different usernames?  If so is he being banned as a result?

  09-13/21:31 la-cucaracha:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-13/19:46 Hagbard:  @edmond-dantes: which alias do you prefer, this one or Khan Asparukh?

  09-13/19:42 edmond-dantes:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-13/18:24 la-cucaracha:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-13/18:23 la-cucaracha:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-13/16:32 olle:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-11/22:55 Thanir:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-11/22:54 Thanir:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-08/12:22 Maximus:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-06/18:00 fireflo:  Hello everyone, 

I’m really enjoying playing with you guys but I notice not all is peaceful in the tafl world. If I may weigh in as someone fresh to tafl and this community. 
There seems to be disagreement as to the importance of hierarchy and fish-size is a rather controversial topic. (I’m an octopus personally, hope that’s okay with everyone). Perhaps agree on a mission statement based on some core values. Is this something the federation does? 

Promotion is also expressed as a concern. Sharing and teaching is vital to growing the game, so is the teaching of tafl an objective of the community? If so the archive is an invaluable resource for all abilities and the use of it vital to the promotion and spread of the game. Seeing arguments being raised that resources shouldn’t be made available in case people learn tafl feel pretty unwelcoming to a new player and is the very antithesis of the principles of promoting anything. Reading back through your forum it seems the focus for most of you is enjoying the game and elitism based on a fear of strong competition seems pretty incompatible with that.

The disrespect being publicly expressed here will scare new people away (not me, I’m hardcore ;) ) but others may not want to get involved in an existing conflict. Venting needs to happen in all human situations but choose the medium more carefully.

Anyway, you don’t have to listen to me, just though it might help to hear what this looks like from the outside. 

Btw, we have a board game library/café here in Oxford called Thirsty Meeples, and they hadn’t heard of tafl. If there are any UK based players who want to organise an event there maybe we could cure them of their ignorance.

  09-06/15:54 Fairland:  @ Squaree: Thank you for clearing Edmond up, I needed a translator. :)

@ Edmond: I agree that there is always room for improvement everywhere, including this site. My complaint is your approach. We are all trying to work together and you let our apathy get the best of you. Please, play a game with me (which you will certainly win) and we can talk in a different environment and I am sure you will find me open to thoughts of improvement, as well as quite amiable. On this site, I have never been known for my amazing skills, but for my ability to have a good conversation.

  09-06/15:44 Steiger:  May it be so!

  09-06/15:36 fireflo:  @Steiger Thanks, cool track. And thanks for all the games, may there be many more. :)

  09-06/13:08 Steiger:  I want to greet new players: Mihkkal, Olle and Fireflo. Salute and welcome!!! This one is personally for Fireflo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMg2SDmAmIM

  09-05/20:23 edmond-dantes:  if you think deeply on my words you will come to the conclusion that for many of the things I am right but you must have the strength and admit it ... cheers

  09-05/20:20 edmond-dantes:  I respect everybody here. The side is that everyone here has begun to support the administrator and to make me mistaken without even hearing my suggestions and suggestions. And they are for good to believe me. It is a fact that the administrator himself did not say a word as well as the leading players on the site, we only heard small fish that are far from useful thoughts.

  09-05/18:10 Agmundr:  Skál! Allar vikingar!🍻 @OdinHimself very good posting!

  09-05/17:23 OdinHimself:  @Agmundr: This is Varg Vikernes reading the Havamal? Good. :) @AllOfYou: Please, stop fighting. It's only 10 days left till the slaughter begins, use your time to sharpen the axes. I've always said we are Vikings here, a small brotherhood, too small for hating each other. Let's revive the game by playing it. Everything else will come in place with time. Please brothers, do like vikings did once in Valhalla - fight till death just for sport and keep up the shape, then resurrect for the feast and hold your brother's arm while singing the battle hymns - eat Saehrimnir's meat and drink the mead of Heidrun's udder. In the name of hnefatafl - respect each other and help your brothers!

  09-05/13:13 goseji:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-05/13:07 sqaree:  It's sad that Edmond Dantes is full of shit because some parts of his criticism are justified. But insulting like 80% of the player base at the same time makes no one listen.

I know of at least one strong player in the past who stopped playing partly because of the time per move mode on the site, and the WC taking too much time. I also know of at least one strong player who just lost interest in the game thus having vanished; maybe it was too boring to win every single game, I don't know.
I too think that WTF and esp. WC organization should become more structured and transparent, maybe we should have another look at the blown up ruleset too at some point, but to this day the community is a bit small so such might not be necessary yet.

And edmont, I play the WC here every year and rarely other tournaments (albeit no casual games throughout the year). I care about this game just like all the other players on this site. Think about it, everyone here, the weaker and strong players, despise you, cause it's not about strength but as others have pointed out, about respect.

  09-05/10:03 Steiger:  Good video, Agmundr. Thanks!

  09-05/09:49 Agmundr:  As a traditional European I can recommend this video as a inspiration for us all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj3S9b03Kkg

  09-05/08:40 goseji:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-05/07:01 Steiger:  @Ded Fomich: Life is in full swing, my friend. Very stimulating - thanks to @edmond-dantes!) He does his job well. I even feel a little sorry for him, because alienation and oblivion awaits people like him. What a pity.

  09-04/23:08 Ded Fomich:  I can only advise to be frugal, frugality is very attractive in a real champion, it’s his hallmark.

  09-04/23:07 Ded Fomich:  As far as I see you are having a good time here, gentlemen! I also see a very typical side effect of sport — illogical pride, delusional self-importance, arrogance and rudeness. That’s why I’m not a sportsman, I prefer to be a recreational athlete =)

  09-04/20:42 Steiger:  Man as a vessel -  hit him and see what fills him up.

  09-04/19:39 edmond-dantes:  yes, just wait to grow up. now he is silent

  09-04/19:18 Steiger:  @edmond-dantes: And I'll never respect people, who don't know what respect is.

  09-04/19:15 Steiger:  @edmond-dantes: so what? Small fishes will grow up - it's just question of time. And you too can healed if you understand how sick you are by teenage phallometry)))

  09-04/18:49 edmond-dantes:  @Steiger please enter the archive and cite here in front of everyone what the result is between us and who does not silent for ever ....because you are a small fish

  09-04/18:45 edmond-dantes:  @Steiger you need to wake up, to gather, to understand, to improve in life and play, to land. To learn to respect the people who beat you and to take your soul to the valhala .. believe me

  09-04/16:10 fireflo:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  09-03/21:09 Steiger:  @edmond-dantes: did Plantagenet bite you?) You need to rest: sleep, walk in the fresh air, go to the gym, eat beans cheese and black chocolate, have sex.;-) Everything will be all right - tafl will survive, believe me.

  09-03/19:01 edmond-dantes:  you ask me what I did to promote the game. how can you promote something that does not work? something that has no structure, organization, and is poorly managed? something that is not clear who takes the decisions and the tribute are players who have long been sleeping hibernation so-called small fish with a bad rating. so you are not able to get your world champions playing what we are talking about?

  09-03/18:50 edmond-dantes:  none of you can promote the game because you do not have the qualities to do it. You have no qualities to build and improve as people and to accept new things .. in nature there are no casual things so you are in such a number. You are called Vikings, northern people, and you are actually sick minds. quote me who have not played and a party on this site for a year. How do they promote the game?

  09-03/18:19 edmond-dantes:  here will remain only those who named and no one else. What a pity

  09-03/18:11 edmond-dantes:  you are doomed in oblivion with such sorrows and thoughts. now it became clear to me. Good luck

  09-02/20:57 casshern:  @edmond-dantes: This game is older than chess. The world decided it prefers chess over hnefatafl. This site is the best resource we have for continuing this game. I cannot say why people who played here in the pass stopped playing here, but I am confident it was not because of the handling of the administrator. We are a small community. Odinhimself, Hagbard, Fairland, Tuireann, the Formby Community, the Geek Wars Club (who are providing the pizes for this years tournament), and so many more are doing what they can to promote hnefatalf across the world to grow our community. But as I previously stated, the world has already rejected hnefatafl. Your critics have merit, yes. But all we have is each other and this game we all love. We should be kind and respectful to each other, like Steiger says. Then maybe the world will accept hnefatafl again.

  09-02/19:26 edmond-dantes:  @Fairland  edmond-dantes it is Lyuboslav Vasilev a player who played in the valhala of the last championship, and the only one to win one of the great Casshern and the Plantagenet games.also defeated herjan and crust though with another profile and many others
https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2917157

  09-02/19:09 edmond-dantes:  @casshern I do not deny Hagbard's work for this site but he does not have the necessary experience to structure and conduct tournaments and does not want to improve on this. We know that there is no federation or people with the right experience to make the right decisions. we see the decrease in the number of players on his site. We do not see the world champions in the past playing in the current tournaments. opinions say small fish like Farland who wakes up once a year and speaks without any knowledge of it. so in practice he makes decisions alone as the owner of the site. I would make a site if I had the opportunity for this. but I'm not good at computers and writing the language for them. my critique is not to gloat, namely to improve it on his site. Unfortunately, you are wrong, I gave specific ideas for a tournament but Hagbard did not answer with either yes or no. This site is his. As to the database it is harmful. I say it as a chess player who has experience with this. limited and they will be exhausted in time or faster with an engine, a newcomer can effortlessly beat the world's strongest player without having done the right job to open these lines.

  09-02/18:48 Steiger:  Ah, and be excellent to each other!)

  09-02/15:39 Steiger:  Strong player, weak player - does not matter. Play hnefatafl, make hnefatafl, talk about hnefatafl - that's what important!

  09-02/09:11 Kratzer:  @ edmond-dantes: I'm sure there are a thousand reasons why players stop playing, one being people like you talking disrespectful about so-called weak players. No matter how right or wrong you are – that's a no go

  09-01/20:12 casshern:  @Hagbard: Thank you for the clarification. That makes much more sense than whatever I said.

  09-01/12:47 Fairland:  Sounds great to me. I am hopeful to have a shot this year. I remember us debating the everyone in round two back then. I have enjoyed that setup, I think I will enjoy this one, also.

  09-01/08:56 Hagbard:  A remark about the rounds:
Since 2014 we always had a Round 2 where all players could enjoy a Round 2 tournament against the opponents of about equal strength.
Now it is the same, only for all 3 rounds.

  09-01/03:25 casshern:  As far as the structure of the tournament(s), I don’t think there is a format that would make everyone happy. Many players don’t have the time to play 20+ games simultaneously. And head to head matches would lead the tournament lasting months. So what is the best size for groups? We have been using a limit of 4 players per group for a few months. Personally, I like groups of 6 which is 10 games per round. I think that is reasonable. Also, I think only 1 winner from each group, or two if there is a tie at the top, should move on to the next round. I would also prefer 2 rounds rather than 3. Like we had last year. But, I see how putting the lower rated players and new players in the first round makes sense. Since, many players who lost in the first round last year didn’t bother playing in the second round. 

Does anyone else have an opinion about the tournament structure? I hope I am not opening a can of worms, since the tournament is only a couple weeks away. But, I think everyone’s opinion should be heard. Even though we have already had discussions that have lead us to this current tournament structure...

  09-01/02:50 casshern:  If I may, I also have a few things I have been wanting to say. First, I think Hagbard does a great job as administrator of this site. He listens to others requests and does his best to make everyone who plays here enjoy their experience.

@edmond-dantes: Is there a better site to play tafl? I only know of playtaflonline, which is also a great site to play. The reason I stopped playing there is because it does not have an archive. Can you tell us again why you don’t like the archive? I think it is a good thing to have. Actually, I would like to see an engine/bot/ai that is stronger than humans, like in chess. I think the archive helps everyone who wants to improve their play. You complain about how this site is run and that the game will not grow, but how have you contributed to this site and the growth of the game? I know you have an idea for tournament and you were talking to Hagbard. But last I saw he asked for specific details about your idea and you did not reply. If you are so unhappy, then why don’t you start your own site and make it better than this one?

  08-31/22:15 Fairland:  Yes, I was involved in each decision you talked about. Over the years we have tried different tournament models to see what we liked and what we didn't like. Then we each gave feedback to Mr. Nielsen and the system evolved accordingly. In fact, I can remember my comments about the tournament setup that aided in the cause of the creation of the system we have today. Fairland is Levi, Who is Edmond Dantes?

  08-31/22:00 edmond-dantes:  do you participate in the decision to limit the number of players in a tournament, participate in the decision on the form of the World Cup, do you participate in the decision to award fictional titles of fictional tournaments for fictional players?

  08-31/21:57 edmond-dantes:  sorry but who it is Fairland.can you tell your real names

  08-31/21:49 Fairland:  I have never felt like decisions were made alone. Aage comes up with an idea and says, "I was thinking about this." If we disagree, we say we do. If we are OK with it, we go with it. I have never seen Aage as a man who makes decisions without consensus. If I have ever had a concern about the site, I challenge Aage to a game and talk to him in the comments about it. After we discuss it, changes are either made or not made depending on the situation. One way or the other, Aage is the administrator of the site, therefore he has a level of autonomy on how it should be run. 


If you give a small fish enough to eat, they become a large fish.

  08-31/21:45 edmond-dantes:  about weak players, nobody likes small fish that make small waves .. ha ha

  08-31/21:40 edmond-dantes:  as brothers, why are the decisions taken alone?

  08-31/21:02 Fairland:  "So much stupidity I have never heard" is neither an argument, nor a question. It is rude. Weak or strong players, we are brothers in tafl here, what we don't want is the extreme hostility you have been putting forth when we have enjoyed almost a decade on this site without it.

  08-31/21:00 edmond-dantes:  Yes, I agree Agge maintains this web space, writes the codes, gives part of his time completely selfless, but lately I see a lot of wrong decisions that he takes completely completely without discussion. Here I include tournament formats, number of participants, change of rules, awarding awards, and so on. The reports of a federation or any such organization are a complete lie, or if it is not, it is not working. It's not about criticizing but trying to improve things and help develop and popularize the game because I really liked it .....

  08-31/20:23 edmond-dantes:  @Kratzer;  I have said my arguments. I did not get my questions answered. The work performance here is visible in the number of players and the level of players and people who visit this site. How do you think? The regulation of the tournaments, their structure and the way they are held are mistaken ... But what of that as one or two weak players like you are satisfied. In fact, who am I to break the silence of the lambs ...

  08-31/15:24 Kratzer:  @edmond-dantes: All I read is "foolishness", "stupidity", "bad management" – what is going on here? You don't have to agree with everything. But you could at least show some respect and bring forward reasonable arguments like everyone else does. Thank you very much!

  08-30/15:46 melody.pond:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-29/17:49 Khan Asparukh:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-28/20:51 Rew:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-27/21:59 steveh6883:  Deregisters from the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-27/13:17 Hagbard:  If no objections, two winners per Round 2 group proceed to the final. And the Scand. and East tournaments wait till after the World Champ. tourn.

  08-25/20:54 sybil:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-25/16:54 Hagbard:  - And another suggestion: It's probably better to postpone the Scandinavian and East tournaments till after the World Champ. tourn.

  08-25/15:04 AreVidar:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-24/20:58 steveh6883:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-24/14:08 Hagbard:  Suggestion for a small change in the world champ. tourn. scheme:
http://aagenielsen.dk/hnefataflforum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=1055#p1055

  08-22/22:10 Steiger:  @ Madphill, Наведём шороху, камрад!) \m/.

  08-21/21:45 Madphill:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-19/09:09 Hagbard:  The umpires are found:
Adam Bartley, Norway ("Adam"). For Adam's games, umpire is Aage Nielsen, Denmark ("Hagbard"). For Adam/Hagbard games, umpire is Mario Aluizo, USA ("casshern").

Since there are three prizes, it might be necessary this year with rematches not only to find one #1 but also to find one #2 and one #3.

  08-17/17:02 kAAgEE:  Thanks very much for all your work putting these tourneys together for us. I'm going to respectfully pass up on playing in the world championship this year.

  08-17/08:14 Adam:  Straightforward prize distribution makes sense to me. Fantastic that we have enough prizes that we need to distribute them!

  08-16/08:11 OdinHimself:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-15/10:34 Hagbard:  Thanks for telling

  08-15/09:17 animals:  @Hagbard: I will not be entering the World Championship tournament this year, but hope to have more time in the future

  08-11/02:15 Patterson:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-10/16:38 juman:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-10/16:07 AreVidar:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-10/14:48 Adam:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  08-10/13:32 Hagbard:  If a player on the "Missing names" list *cannot* take part in the World Championship tourn., please mention it here, it helps the planning.

  08-01/16:26 goseji:  Registers for the World Championship Tournament 2018.

  07-30/19:37 Hagbard:  quite ;)

  07-30/08:52 OdinHimself:  @Hagbard: I thought we are vikings here? The strongest of us all gets the lion's pie. He takes everything - the crown, the land, the prize, the power and the glory, the most beautiful women and ale in the kingdom etc. Everyone else take what they can get. Isn't it how it was since the beginning of time? :)

  07-29/21:40 Hagbard:  There's not been much support for the prize distributing idea.
It looks like the distributing should be the straighforward:
winner #1: board 11x11
winner #2: board 9x9
winner #3: figure king or berserk

By now 18 players registered for the World Championship tourn. Last year 34 players registered, and the three rounds scheme this year can easily handle all known tafl players in the world! As the motto of sport goes: the most important thing is not to win, but to take part.

  07-27/16:44 Hagbard:  New in gallery: Photos from Kerteminde, Denmark.

  07-25/23:13 Hagbard:  casshern won the Welsh Tawlbwrdd tourn.

  07-25/17:54 casshern:  I also think the winner of the WTC should be given a prize, if there is one offered, regardless of whether they have won a prize previously. Thats just the way it is in competition. To the victor goes the spoils. It is up to everyone else to improve their play to challenge the champion.

  07-24/19:49 Hagbard:  The large forum is opened 3 days for new registerings!

  07-22/08:58 Hagbard:  It's just a suggestion - it's really up to the players to decide. By now there seems to be one vote for and two against.

  07-22/06:36 Fairland:  @Hagbard. I understand your desire to evenly distribute boards to all members, especially if we have an "unbeatable" in competition, but I am not sure it is fair for the winner to walk away without his prize. maybe we could work toward an alternative solution?

  07-21/18:15 ErzyaKS:  Deregisters from the World Championship Tournament 2018.
Full contents of the small forum.
International tafl master Lucho Panchev ("OdinHimself"), Bulgaria, tells about Hnefatafl in the scientific TV magazine Epohata na Vodoleya, Bulgarian TV September 2017.
Darius Trimegiste tells about Hnefatafl on Lofoten, Norway, August 2017.
SC Odin club, Bulgaria; Hnefatafl promo, November 2017.
Lucho Panchev's book about Hnefatafl in Bulgarian, January 2018.
Lucho Panchev's book about Hnefatafl in Bulgarian, March 2018.
A review of hnefatafl made by Dmitriy Pashkov for the Russian YouTube channel "THE STATION" Feb. 2018.
Logo: Adam Bartley.
World Tafl Federation on facebook.

Notice the collection of photos on the Facebook site! Large photo series of handmade tafl sets!
World Tafl Federation Hnefatafl Championship tournament 2018.

Hnefatafl is also known by the names Nefatavl, The King's Table, The Viking Game, Viking Chess, Tablut or simply Tafl.
History of this site.
Comments on Hnefatafl.
The origin of the Viking board game Hnefatafl and the Berserk rules.
Links to more information on the Viking board game Hnefatafl.
Tafl Shops.
Viking word of wisdom: The Hávamál.
(Havámál på dansk).
Здесь можно играть в тавлеи и против компьютера, и против людей. Можно использовать кириллицу.
Many thanks to Adam Bartley ("Adam"), Tim Millar ("crust"), Gregory Binns ("Torc"), John C. Ashton, Nicolas Cartier, Jonas Lööf ("conanlibrarian"), Olli Salmi, Damian Walker ("cyningstan"), Sten Helmfrid, Rene Gralla, Olga Mudrichenko, Gary and Christa (Germany), Ludovic Antoine, Nikolas Lloyd, Jeffrey Westcoat ("Sigurd"), Rasmus Holbroe, Thore Nissen, Lucho Panchev ("OdinHimself"), Alexander Steiger Dis ("Steiger"), Dmitry Pashkov and Delray Curtis ("jrton80") for their contribution to this site. And not least the more than 400 players the world over who played here more than 15000 real tafl games humans against humans and thus created a vast, practical experience with this intriguing, historical board game.
Updated 9.10.2018