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by nath
Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:18 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Nath-project
Replies: 32
Views: 63595

Re: Nath-project

They became mathematicians because they like those bubbles. You have no more chance of that than I have of getting you into Brandubh. I think in a lot of cases it's actually the other way around. A lot of them get to accustomed to a bubble during their studys and stick with it. Well, to the extent ...
by nath
Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:51 am
Forum: Other
Topic: The State Of Play Tafl Online
Replies: 21
Views: 54141

Re: The State Of Play Tafl Online

I'm probably wrong, but I thought those ideas came from Monte Carlo search. You are right on that one. What I meant was, that I don't know of any reasonable DNN experiment for the value network before. It's a very different method. The results wouldn't have come so fast or been so spectacular witho...
by nath
Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:41 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Nath-project
Replies: 32
Views: 63595

Re: Nath-project

I think we're grabbing the same elephant at different ends. Let's get back to Hnefatafl. I still care about the abstractions. I understand your pov, yet deeply care that people who understand abstractions make them better in every regard possible. I'd just love to get a few mathematicians out of th...
by nath
Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:10 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: The State Of Play Tafl Online
Replies: 21
Views: 54141

Re: The State Of Play Tafl Online

Hmm, so there isn't that much about AZ that's actually original - Google just had the resources to combine the best elements from a multitude of sources. Compared to AlphaGo Zero, which brought the justification for the value and policy network, the novelty of alpha zero is slim. Alpha Zero is basi...
by nath
Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:23 am
Forum: Other
Topic: The State Of Play Tafl Online
Replies: 21
Views: 54141

Re: The State Of Play Tafl Online

Sorry, I wasn't clear - I meant the "web app" that plays through games. Is it server or client side? Maybe I could hack it to add editing capabilities. I think it's not only java, but plays awful. But I guess that is a question @Hagbard . Yes, in fact I tried stealing(?) an idea from AlphaZero by p...
by nath
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:57 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Nath-project
Replies: 32
Views: 63595

Re: Nath-project

Notice I employed the weasel word "almost". ;) I still strongly disagree with the sentiment. But my point was that mathematical abstractions aren't considered useful unless they simplify the conceptual landscape. They are usually considered useful when they yield results that can be proven or reuse...
by nath
Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:21 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: The State Of Play Tafl Online
Replies: 21
Views: 54141

Re: The State Of Play Tafl Online

There is a database here. Oops, I missed that - should be very useful. Is the code by Hagbard? Is it open source? I'm talking mainly about the game archive, but there should be some older games around as well. I had some pleasant acommunication with Hagbard, he was helpful. I don't know what open s...
by nath
Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:47 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Nath-project
Replies: 32
Views: 63595

Re: Nath-project

the people that tend to be the best with abstractions, tend to use their minds for creating abstractions that give rise to some theoretical unification, but not those who care about solutions supply awful messy ones, yet it's hard to argue with a concept, if it works. I'm having trouble parsing thi...
by nath
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:43 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Nath-project
Replies: 32
Views: 63595

Re: Nath-project

But can't you imagine someone working entirely inside pure math saying, "we should just let the programming fanatics handle that"? I love pure math myself and I know a lot people working there. It's hard to not notice a lot of people thinking that. It's easy to identify cultural influences that pus...
by nath
Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Nath-project
Replies: 32
Views: 63595

Re: Nath-project

Writing for an audience of humans is very different from writing for CPUs. :) Those specs the CPUs need usually go without saying in a math paper. That's why Mathematica is so nice: it's as close a programming gets to pure math. I can conceptually capture what you mean be that. At the same time I'm...